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this is not

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this is an ifo identified flying object

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a man not superman jetting in a bell

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aerosystem's rocket belt

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this is a ufo unidentified flying object

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popularly called a flying saucer

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to responsible scientists and photo

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analysts they are

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particular clouds sun dogs

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planets balloons

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or mirages first of all the objects are

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not unidentified we know what they are

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second in many cases in most cases

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they're not flying

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and finally in many cases they are not

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a rio flying saucer looks like this an

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avro car

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manufactured in canada being test flown

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in 1961

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or like this free-flying air-cushion

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vehicle being flown by its inventor

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but ufo sightings persist and skeptics

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often become

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confirmed believers i've slowly come to

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conclusion that there are such things as

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interplanetary spaceships i have to

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stick my neck out and say that because i

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believe it at long last

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psychiatrists often call these reported

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ufo sightings

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illusions hallucinations self delusions

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i'm not saying that there aren't things

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in the sky that we don't know about

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what i am saying is that when there's

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anything that one doesn't know about

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then the mind fills it with a great

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mass of fantasy and most

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of what we're dealing with in these

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reports

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is almost certainly fantasy

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fact or fiction myth menace or marsh gas

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this is an age when scientific and

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technological developments are rapidly

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making yesterday's fiction

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fact

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how much do we know and how we know what

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we know

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is what tonight's cbs reports is all

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about

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cbs reports ufo

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friend foe or fantasy reported by cbs

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news correspondent

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walter cronkite good evening reports of

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flying saucers are nothing new

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from the beginning of recorded time men

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have been seeing

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unexplainable things in the sky and

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there's no reason to doubt they saw

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something

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the question is was what they saw really

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there

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and what was it they really saw the

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great flying saucer mystery of 1966

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began here

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near dexter michigan late in march and

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before the month was out flying saucers

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were being reported from new jersey to

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california

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from colorado to long island from ohio

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to georgia

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invariably the first reports were

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brought in by quiet and sober citizens

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like frank manner

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father of ten children a country man a

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hunting man

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a man used to wooded swamplands by night

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well uh first beginning we were watching

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television and we have

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six dogs here and they started raising a

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fuss in which they never do much so

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i went outside and gave a yell at them

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and as i turned around to come back on

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the porch

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i looked to the north of me and uh

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there were looked like a fallen star

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meter it was red and kind of coming down

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and on a 40 about a 45

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and so then i

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watched it and i was going to see if it

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landed and then maybe go down and see

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what it was

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and when it got to the top of the trees

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it stopped

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in a blue and a white light come on

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and uh i looked at it and i thought i

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was seeing things

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frank banner's ufo remained over his

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swamp more than four hours

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his children saw it his in-laws saw it

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residents of the area saw it

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the police saw it no one photographed it

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but sergeant newell schneider of the

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sheriff's office remembered it well

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enough

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to draw it no it moved very rapidly

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at any speed or rather any direction it

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wanted to go

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why i could change and go to the right

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or the left or go crossways

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without hesitating a bit what do you

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think it was

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well if they call it a flying saucer

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that's what it is

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40 miles away another swamp land and

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another ufo sighting

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this is hillsdale and the girls at

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hillsdale college had a

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night to remember well when i was

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looking out the window with the

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binoculars i guess it was

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about 12. i saw it and i saw

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two red lights and i saw what looked to

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be shaped like a pie

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i could just see the front of it i just

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saw the round front and i could see the

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lights on either side

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and then the red light was sort of

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casting a glow over the whole thing so

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it looked like

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a round disc at first when i'd heard the

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other girls talk about it i didn't

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really

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make myself comprehend it because

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i hadn't seen it with my own eyes but

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then when i saw it

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i just was fascinated i wasn't afraid

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i i just wanted to stay there and keep

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my eyes glued to it i couldn't leave

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i know i thought but and i

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i mean i know myself i saw it but i

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don't

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i believe i saw it but i can't fathom it

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because it seems so unreal

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william van horn hillsdale's undertaker

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and civil defense director

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also spotted the ufo that was out with

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his geiger counter next day

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checking a mysterious perfect circle

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where the ufo had been seen

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van horn did not find any radioactivity

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but this did not shake his certainty

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that he had seen a hovering vehicle with

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two lights

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many people ask him why he did not go

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right up to the ufo in the dark

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i'd uh much rather be a live coward than

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a dead hero

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and uh with the area of uncertainty that

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we have here

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how do i know but what uh maybe uh

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maybe there's a current uh another

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electrical charge which is being

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radiated by one of these vehicles which

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would uh

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electrocute you if you got within a

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certain area of it

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there was no sound whatsoever i could

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uh a bit of sound the air force sent its

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scientific consultant on ufos professor

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j allen heineck

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to check the michigan sightings dr

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heineck agreed that the good citizens of

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had seen something in the marshland he

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thought they had seen

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marsh gas i've had many many letters

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pointing out that they as children on

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the farm

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had had many experiences with swamp

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lights and that this was obviously the

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thing that it was and they couldn't

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understand why the people in michigan

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got so excited over swamp lights

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and the illusion of motion frequently is

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given by the fact that

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a little bit of swamp light appears here

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it goes out another one appears over

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here that goes out there and but the

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illusion as viewed from a distance is

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that the objects have moved back and

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and sometimes this gas will gather into

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and actually float away in washington a

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private unofficial group

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known as nycap national investigations

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called a news conference dismissed the

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swamp gas theory

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and reopened an old argument with the

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air force nycaps director

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corps officer

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insisted that the air force knew more

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than it was telling we

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are being observed

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by some type of device which is

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ahead of us far ahead of us and is

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probably controlled by a

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highly advanced superior civilization

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now this is a conclusion

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which i personally have stated and is

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shared by

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some members of our board of governors

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and advisors not all of them

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but it has reached to the point where

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many people in the air force have the

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same conclusion in fact the air force at

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one time had a top secret estimate that

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these things were

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interplanetary spaceships so you will

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see that this instead of being a

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subject for ridicule and a big joke

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actually is a serious matter which could

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affect the lives of all of us

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and for the umpteenth time in as many

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called before a congressional committee

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said it was hiding nothing

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air force secretary harold brown we have

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not been hiding anything the

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investigations have been

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made public the explanations of those

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where there is a clear explanation

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have been made public the hearing this

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morning was public for just that reason

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in those cases where for lack of data or

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lack of a

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convincing hypothesis the

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sighting has been kept in the

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unidentified

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category we've been perfectly willing to

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say that too

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but if the air force had nothing to hide

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frank manor

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the michigan farmer who had brought in

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the first report was caught

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in the middle he was mad well you can

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look at here look

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beer bottle's thrown look at my

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windshield what would you think if some

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of your swollen beer bottles at your

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stand out in the middle of the road

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screaming uh

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you nut they're fantastic and all that

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what would you think are you sorry now

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that you did tell people what you saw

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yes i am i am i'm sorry because

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it not that it's not the truth but it's

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just the idea

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the reaction of the people they think

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you're a

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nut tell you the truth that's just what

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they figure you are

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and i'm not going to take it anymore i

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don't want nobody down in here i just

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leave me alone and if the thing lands

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right there and

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right there by that pump i'd never say a

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word then he got out and talked to me i

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wouldn't tell nobody

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that's just the way i feel i'm bitter

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and and disgusted in the whole matter

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and if if people's gonna act like that i

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hope one lands right in ann arbor right

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in the middle of detroit

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if flying saucers had become a painfully

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closed subject of frank manor

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they nevertheless remained an intriguing

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open subject to millions of his

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countrymen

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ufos had been popularized here and

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abroad for almost 20 years

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ever since a pilot named kenneth arnold

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reported seeing some discs

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and said they looked to him the way

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saucers would if you skimmed them across

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water

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as for the latest rash of ufo reports a

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pioneer in rocketry and an early

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popularizer of interplanetary space

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travel

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dr willy lay thought he detected a

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reason

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well it is very typical that it is a

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rash

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because if you get one report you get a

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clutch of other reports following it

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it feeds on itself and the main problem

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there is that the term flying saucer or

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to go official about it

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ufo has produced a label

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uh in the past if somebody saw a streak

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of light in the sky which she couldn't

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understand and which didn't interest him

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very much

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when he might have told his wife that he

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saw a streak of light most likely he

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didn't

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but now that he has a label to put to it

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he comes home and tells

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his wife his children his neighbors the

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policemen on duty and a few other people

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that he saw a flying saucer in the days

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to come many more people will cite many

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more flying

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saucers some these ufos will be miracles

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to others real but unexplainable to most

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scientists

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natural phenomena some people will be

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fooled

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others will try to fool the rest but a

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few will be expert observers

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and their sightings will keep the

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controversy churning over whether

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vehicles from outer space are possible

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and whether indeed these vehicles

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already have arrived here

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we turn to that part of the ufo story in

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here is a ritual that goes on night

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after night before each new term in high

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schools all over the land

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this is scheduling the fitting of

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courses to the needs of each student

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and the needs of each student to the new

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terms classes

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these teachers and counselors are

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searching by trial and error

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for a schedule that works trying out

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students and classes in combination

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after combination

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[Applause]

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night after night right up to the

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opening of school

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but in this high school where 2 000

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students have their choice of more than

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100 classes

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this ibm computer tries out millions of

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combinations of students and classes

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and arrives at the optimum schedule in

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one afternoon the process

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starts in a student counselor's office

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if you're planning on a scientific

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career such as medicine that maybe

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physiology or

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or biology the counselor analyzes where

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each student's abilities lie

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and where he needs direction the

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counselor then simply marks the ideal

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courses for the student on one of these

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lists

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these course requests go into the ibm

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computer

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already stored in its disk memory are

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related facts about each course when

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it's given

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how much space in the class and here's

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the result

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the most workable schedule for every

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student

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coming up as a roster of each class

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for each teacher that's one of the jobs

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also you've got about 10 minutes left

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the computer also scores tests and

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supplies more information from them

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not only grades but where each student

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stands in the class

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where the class stands in the state and

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the state in the nation

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this computer information gives teachers

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a better idea

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where more work is needed the computer

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also

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stores grades from the teacher plus

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comments on each student

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all this information is processed and

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and as a complete record for counselors

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on which to base

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more accurate guidance with your 40th

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percentile story

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the ibm secondary school computer system

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giving our teachers a better opportunity

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to know

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and help each and every individual

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[Music]

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here again is cbs news correspondent

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walter cronkite

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there are more things in heaven and

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earth says shakespeare's hamlet

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than are dreamt of in your philosophy on

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the other hand there may be less there

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than often meets the eye the

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oceanographer and meteorologist

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applestand spielhouse

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in the very early times people didn't

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understand the majestic

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kind of catastrophes of nature if a

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volcano blew its head and

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and destroyed a village primitive people

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used to think of it as some

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enlarged monster some enlargement

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of a thing that was familiar to them

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like a wild animal or something

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in other words they interpreted the this

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uh

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understandable rather fearsome thing

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in terms of their present knowledge

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primitive as it was

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from there you get into medieval times

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with a sort of resurgence of mysticism

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and

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saw

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unexplained things in the sky in those

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days

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they explained them as miracles well

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then you get to today

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and we're on the brink of interplanetary

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travel

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and so we begin to see things in the sky

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again that we can't understand

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or can't explain immediately so we

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explain them again

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with this uh sort of colossal egotism

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of the of man at his present time

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we explain them in terms of our later

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stability

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namely on the brink of space travel

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but then only a few years ago this would

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have been called an optical illusion

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or it might have been called a miracle

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but a man being powered through the air

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without benefit of plane or balloon

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is today a reality tomorrow he may even

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there are jets that can rise straight up

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and then hover

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the french also have experimented in

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this field this is the balzac

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the germans also are doing it this is

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the ewr

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here it comes in for a landing ewr not

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ufo the american xv

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5a built by ryan and only flies straight

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up and down

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northrop's wingless m2 f2 otherwise

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known as the flying bathtub

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is nasa's lifting reentry body half

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plane

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half spacecraft landing like a

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conventional jet without power

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another wingless piece of airborne

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hardware is this a lunar landing

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research vehicle

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at nasa's research center looking more

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like a giant

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flying ant that might have come out of a

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martian comic book

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it will be used when we get to the moon

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small wonder that layman seeing such

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things in newspapers aviation and trade

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journals as well as in newsreels and on

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television

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are ever more ready to believe anything

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where these are real

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then others more incredible are most

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probably being tested in secret

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however all these vehicles operate

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within the laws of physics and

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aerodynamics

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even though they may give the appearance

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of operating outside the laws of nature

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but ufologists still insist there is

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more to it than this

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and so there is at england's victoria

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and albert museum

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cbs correspondent frank kern spoke to

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aeronautical historian

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charles harvard gibbsmith my position

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now

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i think is that i believe that about

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five percent of these things

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are interplanetary that is that they

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come to us from

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a world outside our planetary system

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uh and that some of them uh are in fact

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inhabited by intelligent beings of some

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kind

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and some uh look as if they're remotely

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controlled

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afro who really do we think we are we

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are we're a

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fifth-rate miserable measly little

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system

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out on the edge of the milky way fooling

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around the universe with

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four or five thousand years of so-called

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civilization behind us we think we are

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the cat's whiskers and we are not we're

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a potty second

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rate lot fifth rate on conceited as apes

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not all of us and and here we go in the

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moment anybody suggests that something

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should come in outside from

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from outside we think oh no no it can't

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be there it can't be that it's it's

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quite out you know these things can't

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happen

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and it i think we're all i do it myself

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we're all thinking medievally

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what convinces you more than anything

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else

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the evidence of the men that have seen

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them and primarily

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the behavior and descriptions uh of the

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objects themselves which

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do not fit really any other explanation

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and the old field sighting

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this thing which will become very famous

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where

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a couple who live in a cottage outside

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manchester

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took their first airline journey and

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they had a board a little

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film a little city camera and they take

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pictures down the fields as a couple

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would the first time ever been in an

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airplane

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and she takes what she thinks is an

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airplane

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coming up from behind them and then it

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goes out of

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vision in about 12 seconds or their

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bounce and she goes on taking a few more

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bits of that

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of the distant clouds and puts it back

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and when they get what's this thing i

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mean

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it's it's it's inexplicable by any uh

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unless it's a straight fake and to fake

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uh

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to fake an eight millimeter film in

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color

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wants a lot of equipment uh and

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who on earth are these this charming

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couple what would they be doing

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uh lending themselves to faking these it

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is nothing

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airborne we have ever seen i mean this

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is a basically sausage shape with

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two dorsal and two ventral fins and as

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you look at this film

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it turns away on its vertical axis from

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you and goes

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disappears out that way well i mean you

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can argue until blue in the face what is

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it

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except something that is airborne

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by a force probably electrogravitic

574
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:49,600
force of some kind that we

575
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:52,080
know nothing whatever about uh it is

576
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:53,840
nothing conventional that is nothing

577
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,600
unconventional aerodynamically there's

578
00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:58,080
no single piece of

579
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:00,559
earth-borne equipment of any kind that

580
00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:03,120
can look and behave like that

581
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:05,440
the old fields indeed had not faked

582
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:06,400
anything

583
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,880
but the ufo in their film soon proved

584
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,000
explainable

585
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,320
a few days later an enterprising bbc

586
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:14,320
cameraman took a similar camera

587
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:16,880
sat in the same seat and filmed the same

588
00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:18,559
english countryside

589
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,440
the same ufo hovered into view went

590
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:23,360
through the same maneuvers

591
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:26,400
and disappeared into itself the same way

592
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:29,200
the ufo turned out to be the reflection

593
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:32,320
of the tail section of the plane itself

594
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,919
the refraction of light in the earth's

595
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:36,000
atmosphere is capable of fooling both

596
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,559
the human eye and the camera lens

597
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:40,720
and that thin life-giving envelope of

598
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:41,679
atmosphere

599
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:44,080
sets apart the spaceship earth from its

600
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,120
sister planets

601
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,919
as it spins about the sun at 66 000

602
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,919
miles per hour

603
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:51,840
one of the problems connected with man's

604
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:53,440
flight through this environment

605
00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:55,280
derives from the law of physics

606
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:57,520
governing objects moving at high speeds

607
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:59,840
through the ocean of air

608
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,080
aircraft moving at high speeds pierce

609
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:04,080
the air compressed before the plane's

610
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:04,960
wing

611
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:07,840
a shock wave results it's become known

612
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:08,480
as a

613
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:10,960
sonic boom and even today's

614
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,840
comparatively slow flying military jets

615
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,080
alarm some citizens and run up bills for

616
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,919
the defense department each year

617
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:20,080
from the effect of these shock waves on

618
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:30,230
question why have no ufos ever created

619
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:31,919
an identical phenomenon

620
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:33,840
when they're reported moving at speeds

621
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:36,000
far in excess of jet planes

622
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:37,840
as this film made by mrs madeleine

623
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:39,679
rotifer in 1965

624
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,640
purports to show further if the laws of

625
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,400
nature prevent jet aircraft from

626
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:46,320
abruptly changing direction without

627
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,799
breaking up aircraft and passengers

628
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,279
why would a ufo be exempt from the same

629
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,600
effect at greater speeds

630
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,679
the answer of most scientists is that we

631
00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,080
are not dealing with material objects

632
00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,080
from outer space at all

633
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:02,480
but with lights reflections and natural

634
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:03,679
phenomena

635
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:05,120
former director of the harvard

636
00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:06,960
observatory now a member of the

637
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:08,000
smithsonian

638
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:11,039
professor donald h menzel

639
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:13,279
many people looking up into the sky can

640
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:15,919
see a bright object on the horizon

641
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:18,960
they think that this object is a ufo

642
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,559
when actually as we scientists know

643
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:24,799
it can be an effect of the earth's

644
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:25,760
atmosphere

645
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:28,799
that through a layer

646
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,840
of hot air that is entrapped above a

647
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,840
layer of cold air near the ground

648
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:36,080
we get an effect which uh we call a

649
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:37,360
mirage

650
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:40,320
now uh to demonstrate this i have a sort

651
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:40,799
of a

652
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:44,400
earth atmosphere in this jar

653
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,960
this is a layer of benzene which is a

654
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,960
very high index of refraction

655
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:51,360
and it acts like a layer of cold air and

656
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,080
i am now

657
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:55,039
uh putting on top of it floating on it a

658
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:56,000
layer

659
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:00,880
of

660
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:03,360
lesser refractive index it acts like a

661
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:04,640
layer of hot air

662
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:06,400
on the screen we will see a bright light

663
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:07,919
that's being projected

664
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:10,880
from the ground level here and passing

665
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:11,279
through

666
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:14,320
the acetone on the benzene and now we

667
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:15,360
will turn out the lights

668
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,919
and you see on the screen that the

669
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:19,360
bright spot of light

670
00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:22,240
that was originally traversing this

671
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:24,080
artificial atmosphere and appeared at

672
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:25,840
the top of the screen

673
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:29,120
gradually dims and

674
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:32,240
a line of colored light streams out

675
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:35,440
down below this spot and finally the

676
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,120
spot near the top of the screen

677
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:39,919
disappears and we see instead of

678
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:42,159
beautifully colored and rapidly moving

679
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,039
spot

680
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:46,000
the colors are due to refraction the red

681
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,799
color

682
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:49,200
sometimes is attributed to the presence

683
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:50,000
of a

684
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:53,440
rapidly moving jet the blue color

685
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:56,720
is sometimes interpreted as a motion

686
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:59,360
toward the observer it's all an effect

687
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:00,640
of a mirage

688
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:03,520
and yet uh this has been reported again

689
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,320
and again

690
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:06,720
by experienced pilots who have thought

691
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:08,720
that they were being attacked by ufo

692
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:11,360
from outer space

693
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:14,960
this is a type of sun dog ice crystals

694
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,960
in an otherwise transparent atmosphere

695
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:18,720
reflect light from the sun

696
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:21,600
and it produces a saucer shaped uh body

697
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,320
that

698
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,960
can maneuver rush in toward the plane or

699
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:26,960
sometimes move rapidly away as the

700
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,840
density of ice crystals thins out

701
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:32,400
there are brilliant meteors the shooting

702
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:33,200
stars that

703
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,320
uh flash through the sky there are many

704
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,400
cases on record where a pilot and a

705
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:41,440
co-pilot have seen the identical flyer

706
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,200
in front of their plane

707
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,600
and one of them has pulled up the plane

708
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:47,600
abruptly in an attempt to

709
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:50,799
maneuver to miss it when actually the

710
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:51,919
other pilot uh

711
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:55,279
claimed that it was an object 70 or 100

712
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,080
miles away which actually it was

713
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,640
in addition to mirages in the atmosphere

714
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,559
many physical objects in the air have

715
00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:04,080
been taken for saucers

716
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:06,159
like this translucent balloon that can

717
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:07,679
carry instruments up to a hundred

718
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:09,039
thousand feet

719
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:12,159
birds kites pieces of paper and the

720
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:12,880
planets

721
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:15,840
have often been claimed as ufos but a

722
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:17,919
little bit of logic goes a long way for

723
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:20,000
those who wish to be persuaded as we

724
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:20,559
shall see

725
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:28,950
this man used to spend hours writing

726
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:31,440
medical findings in longhand

727
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:34,240
but the new ibm 224 dictating unit cured

728
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:41,510
this man used to trust countless details

729
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:52,470
the new ibm 224 never forgets anything

730
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,230
this woman used to take notes while

731
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:57,279
checking her merchandise

732
00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:00,399
but the new ibm 224 takes stock of

733
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:00,960
things

734
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:05,200
quickly and easily at only 28 ounces

735
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:07,919
this new ibm dictating unit is so small

736
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,279
and so compact

737
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:11,360
that you can use it anywhere you think

738
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,880
at home on trips

739
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:15,200
and conferences and of course behind

740
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:16,399
your desk

741
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:19,520
whatever you do the new ibm 224 can help

742
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:20,480
you do it

743
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:24,880
better here again is cbs reports

744
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:28,720
ufo friend foe or fantasy

745
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:31,360
saucer fans are often devoted readers of

746
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:32,799
science fiction

747
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,320
much of it is written by highly

748
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,000
respected scientists

749
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:38,159
on an even more popular level the comic

750
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:40,159
book adventures of flash gordon

751
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:42,640
confirm saucer buffs in the plausibility

752
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,559
of their beliefs

753
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,559
but all is not peaceful on the planet

754
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,640
earth because the saucer addicts are

755
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,159
divided into cults

756
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,559
groups and sects that range from the

757
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:54,559
skeptical citers who hope there is a

758
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:55,679
logical answer

759
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,760
to the true believers who feel sure the

760
00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:58,880
answer is being

761
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,919
covered up by the military establishment

762
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:03,840
perhaps the farthest out group is made

763
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,240
up of the contactees

764
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:09,120
they have met talked to or even ridden

765
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,360
with visitors from outer space

766
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:13,520
here at giant rock in california's high

767
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,559
desert country

768
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:17,440
one of the pioneer contactees george van

769
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,240
tassel

770
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:20,480
talked to cbs news correspondent bill

771
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:21,279
stout

772
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:24,240
we're riding on a electrostatic magnetic

773
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,200
ship right now on the earth doing 66 000

774
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:28,880
miles an hour right now in an orbit

775
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,799
around the sun and we're all astronauts

776
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,919
in that respect

777
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:34,000
have you ever gone up close enough to

778
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:36,559
touch one to see what was inside

779
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,000
bill in august the 24th of 1953

780
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:42,880
i went aboard one for about 20 minutes

781
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:44,799
what was it like what happened

782
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:47,919
well the interior walls were uh what

783
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,120
looked like a

784
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,600
mother of pearl plastic like we put on

785
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:53,120
toilet seats and for

786
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,880
a decoration the light inside seemed to

787
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,720
come from everywhere

788
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:00,320
the instrument panel wasn't like

789
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:02,799
anything i'd ever seen before and

790
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:06,840
all of my years since 1927 in the air

791
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,159
game

792
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:09,840
and they had a compartment in the wall

793
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,320
which uh both cleans and deodorizes

794
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:13,760
their clothes

795
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,279
by some light process which required no

796
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,440
water soap or detergents or a washing

797
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,880
machine

798
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:23,039
giant rock for the last 10 years has

799
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,080
been the plymouth rock of the saucer age

800
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,000
saucer conventions were meeting here as

801
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:30,320
far back as the pre-astronaut era of

802
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:32,000
black and white television but the

803
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:32,880
contact-e

804
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:35,919
storyline was the same then as now it's

805
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,679
hard to tell us in your own words about

806
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,360
your trip to venus how it started

807
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:41,679
well as i say it started first with a

808
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:44,799
very decided tingling all over my body

809
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:47,840
uh this tingling finally extended to the

810
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:49,039
mind area

811
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:51,200
and there was a clarification of mine

812
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,320
such as

813
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:54,320
it's hard to believe i seem to become

814
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,640
one with the entire universe

815
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:58,480
in the valhalla of interplanetary

816
00:31:01,990 --> 00:30:59,760
contact deeds

817
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,000
the late george adamski is regarded by

818
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:03,600
his followers as something of a

819
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,840
christopher columbus among outer space

820
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:08,080
voyagers and you talked to him you asked

821
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,600
i have more or less on

822
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,440
gestures and mental to lefty as if

823
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:13,279
there's no one taught transfer

824
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,120
he does not speak i mean he didn't at

825
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:17,039
the time but i have met him since and he

826
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,000
does speak very well

827
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,480
english as well as in the other language

828
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,320
george adamski was successful in

829
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:24,480
attracting many disciples with film like

830
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:25,120
this

831
00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:27,679
he called it a spaceship from venus his

832
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:30,159
critics call it a crude hoax

833
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,760
this film was obtained from one of

834
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:33,360
adamski's disciples

835
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:35,600
mrs madeline rodifer who has made her

836
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:36,960
own ufo film

837
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:38,960
and who credits adamski with an assist

838
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:42,080
in her first contact with venusians

839
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:44,559
some of them have even been to our home

840
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:45,760
and the day that

841
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:48,320
the one came into to the yard which i

842
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,120
filmed

843
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,760
on the camera there were three inside

844
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:53,120
the ship

845
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:54,799
major kehoe and his nightcap

846
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,799
organization have little regard for the

847
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:58,559
likes of contactees

848
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:01,679
rotifer and adamski they lean heavily on

849
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:04,080
the testimony of professionals

850
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:08,080
according to the united states air force

851
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:10,000
in following a policy which is set

852
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:12,640
probably fairly high in the pentagon

853
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:16,000
there are about 250 or

854
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:19,279
300 extremely incompetent

855
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:21,360
airline and military pilots in this

856
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:23,919
country they're carrying passengers

857
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:27,120
they fly across the oceans and

858
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,279
they seem to be quite safe the airlines

859
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,200
let them continue to fly even though

860
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:33,360
they have reported ufos

861
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,320
now this is not an attack on the air

862
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:38,799
force spokesman or the project spokesman

863
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:41,840
they are simply following

864
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,559
to explain away all ufo sightings as

865
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:46,159
quickly as possible when they become

866
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:47,840
public

867
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:51,440
and deny that ufos really exist

868
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:53,679
the official air force reply has long

869
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,760
been that there is no cover-up

870
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,760
and there are no flying saucers from

871
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,120
outer space

872
00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:01,120
the air force position was detailed in

873
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:02,880
this book by lieutenant colonel lawrence

874
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:03,519
tacker

875
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:05,279
who for many years was connected with

876
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,720
the ufo project

877
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:08,640
we're kind of in the position of the man

878
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:10,159
who's uh asked

879
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:12,640
have you stopped beating your wife this

880
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:15,519
has been going on for 19 years

881
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:18,960
the charges are absolutely untrue

882
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,200
you could characterize them as being

883
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:23,120
senseless and vicious

884
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,640
our critics continually charge the

885
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,640
united states air force is withholding

886
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:30,640
information from the general public

887
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:34,159
on this subject this is absolutely

888
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,200
untrue we are not hiding anything we

889
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,039
have nothing to hide

890
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,760
there is nothing in air force files in

891
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,519
either the classified files or the

892
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,039
unclassified files

893
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:47,600
that come to a conclusion that

894
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:48,559
spaceships

895
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:51,360
have visited the earth the air force

896
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:52,480
investigative unit

897
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:55,440
is known as project blue book ufo

898
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:56,159
reports

899
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:58,960
hoax or serious sightings wind up here

900
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,960
at wright-patterson air field in dayton

901
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:01,840
ohio

902
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:04,320
it has studied over ten thousand ufo

903
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,039
sightings

904
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,440
and found explanations for most of them

905
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:09,440
but about 650

906
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:12,320
remain unidentified not enough

907
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,119
information

908
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,159
to explain them the hoaxes however are

909
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:18,079
easy to explain

910
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:20,320
a rocket nose cone turns out to be a

911
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:22,879
magnesium anode used by water companies

912
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:25,119
to protect their pipes

913
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,079
a rock from outer space actually fused

914
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:30,720
by a high tension line which shorted out

915
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:33,200
the finder said this was food from outer

916
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:34,159
space

917
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,679
the food and drug administration

918
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:37,200
analyzed it as

919
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:40,240
old-fashioned buckwheat cakes

920
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:42,879
hoaxes are easy to discount but the air

921
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:45,280
force insists it treats serious reports

922
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,320
seriously chief scientific consultant of

923
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:50,399
project blue book is professor j

924
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,240
allen heineck head of the dearborn

925
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:54,800
observatory at northwestern university

926
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:57,760
he took on the assignment 18 years ago

927
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,920
he talked with joseph worsha of cbs

928
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:00,960
reports

929
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,520
is it in the realm of possibility that

930
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,599
there are spaceships someplace in this

931
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:07,599
universe

932
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:10,000
well if you put it in the where use the

933
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,680
word possibility and not

934
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:13,599
probability then i would have to say i

935
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:14,960
think as any

936
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,240
scientist would have to say it is

937
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,720
certainly possible yes

938
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:21,040
but i think we must always distinguish

939
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,000
between the

940
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:24,000
two terms possible and probable a thing

941
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,520
may be scientifically

942
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:27,520
possible but the probability of its

943
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,920
occurring may be extremely small

944
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,760
to this time there is no proof that i

945
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:34,079
would con consider valid scientific

946
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,119
proof

947
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:37,760
that we have been visited by spaceships

948
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:38,880
i would say

949
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:42,640
the great majority are

950
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:46,160
balloons meteors satellites

951
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,560
aircraft seen with the sun glinting off

952
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:49,680
of them

953
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:53,200
and birds and then you

954
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,000
then you get into a host of minor things

955
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,560
but in general you can say that the ifos

956
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:00,720
identified ones have turned out to be

957
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:03,760
generally quite usual things seen under

958
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:05,839
unusual circumstances or surprising

959
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:06,720
circumstances

960
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,160
it's a global thing what it is uh

961
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:12,240
please don't ask me i i'm still puzzled

962
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:13,200
this might

963
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:15,920
you might call me a study in puzzlement

964
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:18,320
but um

965
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,640
that among the tremendous

966
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:25,200
noise or static or crud or whatever you

967
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,480
want to call it a

968
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:28,320
tremendous number of unreliable reports

969
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:31,200
that are easily explained

970
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:34,240
there is this residue of most

971
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,880
interesting cases that intrigue me in

972
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:38,560
the same way that a good mystery story

973
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,280
intrigues me

974
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,520
and i'd like to get the solution i don't

975
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:43,440
think it is space people

976
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:45,760
although i would be delighted if it

977
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:47,040
turned out that way because as an

978
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,079
astronomer

979
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,680
i think it would make astronomy even

980
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:51,280
more interesting than it is

981
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,520
and as far as the air force is concerned

982
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:55,440
i can't speak for them of course

983
00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:58,560
but i should imagine that if

984
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:01,280
the estab if the existence of spacecraft

985
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:02,720
were really established

986
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:03,760
it would really increase the

987
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:05,839
appropriations of the air force but how

988
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:06,240
do you

989
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:09,359
answer the people who are pretty

990
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:11,839
competent careful cautious probing

991
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,480
people

992
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,440
pilots radar trackers those are

993
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:17,280
particularly the people that i like to

994
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:18,480
talk to

995
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:21,119
because they have they understand what

996
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,000
angular rates are

997
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,920
they understand scientific terminology i

998
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,200
can ask them what was the altitude in

999
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,040
azimuth when you first saw

1000
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:29,040
what was its azimuth and altitude when

1001
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,400
it disappeared

1002
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:32,640
uh what was this what was its angular

1003
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,599
acceleration

1004
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:35,040
they can give you an intelligent answer

1005
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,880
to things like that what is your answer

1006
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,160
to the people who

1007
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:39,920
are sure there are spaceships and they

1008
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:41,839
say that you and the air force are in

1009
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:42,800
cahoots

1010
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:44,240
first of all this business about being

1011
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:46,160
in cahoots is just simply a downright

1012
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,280
falsehood

1013
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:49,520
and if they insist that space vehicles

1014
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:50,560
exist i say

1015
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:53,680
fine the burden of proof is on you

1016
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,000
how thin is the dividing line between

1017
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,079
science and science fiction

1018
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,640
what do we know of outer space is there

1019
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,000
anyone out there

1020
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:04,560
and are they headed our way that part of

1021
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:05,200
the story

1022
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:09,200
in a moment let's try a speed of say 10

1023
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:12,079
knots and a rudder angle of 27 degrees

1024
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:13,760
and check on that tactical diameter

1025
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:15,760
these navy men are asking a machine to

1026
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:16,560
solve a most

1027
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,950
find the red green and violet try

1028
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,440
stimulus at the same time miles away

1029
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:29,440
these chemists are asking it to work on

1030
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:38,230
somewhere else the same thing they're

1031
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:41,359
all sharing a powerful ibm computer

1032
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:44,000
50 companies can now use one computer at

1033
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:44,880
one time

1034
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:47,359
and all 50 get their answers immediately

1035
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,000
this is

1036
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:50,560
time sharing you don't need to own the

1037
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:52,240
computer or go where it is

1038
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:56,000
or be an experienced computer user

1039
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,240
just rent one of these and you're in

1040
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,320
command of the distant computer

1041
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,320
suppose you're blending a new lipstick

1042
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:04,320
calculating color quantities can take

1043
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:13,270
or you want to know how large a rudder

1044
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:15,280
is needed to maneuver a ship before

1045
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:16,079
building it

1046
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:17,839
analyzing the data collected from this

1047
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:20,240
navy scale model takes days to do by

1048
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:21,520
hand

1049
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:24,640
but now you can swing around

1050
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:26,720
type in the data and have the answer

1051
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,240
back in seconds

1052
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:30,320
your question goes out over ordinary

1053
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,720
telephone line into the central computer

1054
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,800
along with the questions of anyone else

1055
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:36,800
who has a problem at that very moment

1056
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:39,359
the computer is so incredibly fast that

1057
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:40,800
answers are flashed back

1058
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:44,000
almost before the fingers leave the keys

1059
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:46,880
with this time sharing system an ibm

1060
00:39:58,140 --> 00:39:47,520
computer

1061
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:05,140
[Music]

1062
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:07,760
[Applause]

1063
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:11,680
cbs reports ufo friend foe or fantasy

1064
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,480
continues with walter cronkite much of

1065
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,640
science when we look at it close up

1066
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:19,040
looks like fiction those who charge a

1067
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:21,200
conspiracy is being carried on by

1068
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,440
scientists in the military to cover up

1069
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:25,280
visitations from outer space

1070
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,720
use that charge to explain why no ufos

1071
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,960
have been reported by our space defense

1072
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,319
system

1073
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:34,640
well this is a dangerous game like

1074
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,880
yelling fire in a crowded theater

1075
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,040
for in this hydrogen bomb and missile

1076
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,760
age the air force has the job of turning

1077
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:43,119
the unidentified

1078
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:45,200
into identified objects in a matter of

1079
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,119
moments there's no time for

1080
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:49,680
theory and conjecture because any

1081
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:51,839
unidentified object would sound warning

1082
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,920
klaxons around the world

1083
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,280
thousands of people would have to know

1084
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:57,599
about it instantly it's literally true

1085
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:58,160
that

1086
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,359
what we don't know could kill us cbs

1087
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:03,280
news correspondent bill stout reports

1088
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,880
from colorado springs

1089
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,560
this is where they watch everything that

1090
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:10,319
flies over or close to

1091
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:13,839
north america the combat operations

1092
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,319
center

1093
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:16,319
for norad the north american air defense

1094
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:18,319
command thousands of items of

1095
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:20,160
information pour in here from radar

1096
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,800
stations

1097
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,280
outposts ships and aircraft scattered

1098
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:24,800
all across the hemisphere

1099
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:27,280
data that's sorted and displayed on this

1100
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:28,480
screen

1101
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,400
all routine flights commercial and

1102
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:32,240
private are filtered out

1103
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,240
those of special interest to air defense

1104
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:35,920
are shown as arrows

1105
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:38,800
yellow is the strategic air command

1106
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:40,720
green is for special interest flights

1107
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,280
such as

1108
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:44,240
president johnson's plane orange is

1109
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,680
unknown

1110
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,760
after they're identified that color is

1111
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:48,800
changed

1112
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,680
red is hostile a color used so far only

1113
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,960
in practice

1114
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:54,880
all this and much more goes into the

1115
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:56,480
decisions that are made right here in

1116
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,359
this room

1117
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:59,760
a 24-hour watch kept by men of the air

1118
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:00,800
force army

1119
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:03,920
navy and canada they see everything

1120
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,119
that's in the sky

1121
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:07,680
they have to and one of them is captain

1122
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,720
gary reese

1123
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,800
an air force radar officer with the air

1124
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,240
defense command

1125
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:14,319
is that right captain you see everything

1126
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,280
that's up there

1127
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,960
yes that's right bill but the

1128
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:18,800
characteristics of our present radar

1129
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:19,680
system

1130
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,720
any object which has reflective surfaces

1131
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:24,640
and which stays within our radar

1132
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:26,640
coverage which is virtually every square

1133
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,400
foot of the united states

1134
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:30,800
will be painted on our radar screens but

1135
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,319
how good are you captain

1136
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:34,480
how large an object can you see if it is

1137
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:35,760
reflective

1138
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:38,880
and let's say larger than a watermelon

1139
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,160
is a crude example

1140
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,079
and within our radar coverage we should

1141
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,160
paint it you talk about the

1142
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,560
reflective properties of an object in

1143
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,920
the sky

1144
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,400
is it possible captain that there are

1145
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,079
things up there

1146
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:54,240
made of material your radar will not

1147
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:55,680
pick up

1148
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,960
so far as we know all flying objects are

1149
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:00,400
composed of materials

1150
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,359
which are aerodynamic and which do have

1151
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:04,960
a reflective surface

1152
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:08,319
upon which radar waves can be bounced

1153
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:10,400
it's possible that there are other types

1154
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,520
of material

1155
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:14,079
however i doubt it has there ever been a

1156
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,920
report of a flying saucer captain that

1157
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:17,839
was translated into hard information

1158
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,640
right here

1159
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,440
a plot on the board in this room i don't

1160
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,040
think so bill

1161
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,440
for the reason that these sightings have

1162
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,119
never been substantiated

1163
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:30,000
and could not be translated into hard

1164
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:31,119
radar return

1165
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:33,040
figures there have been sightings then

1166
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:34,720
but they turned out to be other things

1167
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:38,560
airplanes or balloons but never a saucer

1168
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:41,359
you see everything up to roughly 100 000

1169
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:41,920
feet

1170
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,400
yes that's right up to approximately 100

1171
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:46,560
000 feet at which point the space

1172
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:52,390
the space tracking network also in

1173
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,760
colorado springs

1174
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,760
is charged with tracking and logging

1175
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:58,160
every object that moves in space around

1176
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,960
the earth

1177
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,960
from a hundred thousand feet to two

1178
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,560
thousand miles

1179
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,800
bill stout asked major albert morse just

1180
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:06,720
how good the surveillance is

1181
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:10,240
as an example of some of our precision

1182
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,520
we have here a photo of

1183
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:15,440
a object re-entering the earth's

1184
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,800
atmosphere

1185
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,480
uh through our programs we were able to

1186
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,800
predict a precise time that this was

1187
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,079
going to happen

1188
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:25,200
and notified a a particular agency

1189
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,720
who then went out with a camera and was

1190
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:28,960
able to obtain this photograph

1191
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:31,599
what altitude uh this is just entering

1192
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,720
the earth's atmosphere

1193
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:34,079
somewhere around four hundred thousand

1194
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:35,760
feet in

1195
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:37,599
keeping track on this board you follow

1196
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,119
not only ours but

1197
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:41,680
russian canadian french yes sir

1198
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:44,800
everything that has been launched so far

1199
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:46,640
could there be objects in the heavens

1200
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:49,280
that you cannot see

1201
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:51,680
uh yes sir there possibly could be

1202
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:52,720
however if they

1203
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:56,240
do have a reflectivity uh to a radar

1204
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:58,400
and obey the physical properties these

1205
00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,599
can be tracked

1206
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:02,319
by our system how far out can you see

1207
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:02,720
and

1208
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:05,440
how small an object could you see well

1209
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:06,319
our general

1210
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,480
limits are a one square meter target at

1211
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,839
approximately two thousand nautical

1212
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:11,040
miles

1213
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:14,000
if radar has not picked up any ufos what

1214
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,920
then of the argument that they are not

1215
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,000
made of earthly material sensitive

1216
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,560
to radar reflections while most saucer

1217
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,240
sightings report bright lights

1218
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:24,400
which should be picked up by cameras and

1219
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,079
light sensitive film

1220
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,520
the smithsonian astrophysical

1221
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:30,000
observatory has a network of 16

1222
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:31,520
automatic camera stations in the

1223
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:33,119
midwestern united states

1224
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:35,200
that covers approximately three hundred

1225
00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:41,750
we asked dr robert mccroskey director of

1226
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:43,839
sao's prairie meteorite network

1227
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:47,200
to show us how it works

1228
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,319
this is a one-sixth model

1229
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:52,640
the actual building is six feet by six

1230
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,599
feet uh

1231
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:56,240
it has in it four cameras which appear

1232
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:56,640
through

1233
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:59,119
the windows in the roof and these are

1234
00:46:03,670 --> 00:45:59,680
aerial

1235
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:03,680
mapping cameras they have 45 degrees

1236
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,160
from

1237
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:06,400
center to corner between the four

1238
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:07,760
cameras they cover

1239
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:10,160
essentially the entire sky above 10

1240
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:11,920
degrees elevation

1241
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:15,359
the station is operated automatically it

1242
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:15,760
is

1243
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:18,319
turned on at nightfall by these light

1244
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:19,280
sensors

1245
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,480
and turned off again shortly before dawn

1246
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,400
and during this time it photographs

1247
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:25,680
continuously

1248
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:29,040
the cameras hold about six weeks supply

1249
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:30,640
of film

1250
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,960
it's recovered each week and returned to

1251
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:35,040
us the exposed portion is returned each

1252
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:36,319
week to us

1253
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,760
we have a photograph here of an

1254
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,880
extremely

1255
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:43,200
bright object that occurred last

1256
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:44,480
november

1257
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:47,839
you see the meteor stretched along the

1258
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:50,800
straight line it is broken every

1259
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:53,200
twentieth of a second by a shutter

1260
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,720
the shutter breaks permit us to

1261
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:56,000
determine the velocity and then the

1262
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:57,920
orbit of the body

1263
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:00,560
in the past 15 months working during the

1264
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,440
night time

1265
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:03,599
during clear nights we have not

1266
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,839
photographed anything

1267
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,599
with cameras that cover essentially the

1268
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:09,440
entire sky

1269
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:13,200
that we did not understand dr mccroskey

1270
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:14,880
does the smithsonian have

1271
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,440
other networks that feed information

1272
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:19,440
into the whole system

1273
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:22,000
yes we we have the satellite tracking

1274
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:23,119
network

1275
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,319
is 12 stations about the world

1276
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,640
at each of these stations we have a

1277
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:31,040
large specialized camera for tracking

1278
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,079
satellites

1279
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:35,280
this is a model of one of them here

1280
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:38,880
in size it's about 10 feet high

1281
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:42,079
the aperture is 20 inches it's

1282
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,200
f 0.8 this camera

1283
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:47,359
is built so that it is possible for it

1284
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:48,640
to track along the

1285
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:52,079
trajectory of a satellite and can in

1286
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:52,559
fact

1287
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:55,680
photograph a six-inch shiny sphere

1288
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:57,520
at the distance of the moon at the

1289
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,720
distance of the moon

1290
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,960
yes could you show me a picture of

1291
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:02,720
something that's come from that kind of

1292
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,280
camera

1293
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:06,079
it's not a meteor photograph but one of

1294
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:06,960
a satellite

1295
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:10,240
in fact two satellites this is the

1296
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:13,520
gemini rendezvous when the

1297
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,079
two gemini capsules were within about

1298
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:18,160
three miles of each other

1299
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:20,079
but in all of the pictures that you've

1300
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:22,800
ever seen also from this type of device

1301
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:25,440
again nothing has ever shown up in any

1302
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:26,559
of them

1303
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:29,200
that somebody would call an unidentified

1304
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:30,160
flying object

1305
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,839
not that we would call an unidentified

1306
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,079
flying object no

1307
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,319
since there are no bogeys on radar that

1308
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:38,400
can remain unknown for long

1309
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:41,040
and there is no photographic evidence

1310
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:41,839
let's go

1311
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,480
farther out the expanding knowledge of

1312
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,240
what lies beyond our planet

1313
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,319
has made it respectable to speculate

1314
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,200
about the possibility of life elsewhere

1315
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,040
but that knowledge also makes it more

1316
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:55,359
difficult to conceive of interstellar

1317
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:55,839
space

1318
00:49:01,990 --> 00:48:59,760
mariner

1319
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:02,000
flying by venus and taking pictures of

1320
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,760
the surface of mars

1321
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:05,760
radar signals from earth bounced off

1322
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,599
planetary surfaces and monitored on

1323
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,680
giant antennae like these

1324
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:12,240
have thus far tended to confirm that if

1325
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:14,079
there is life there at all

1326
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:17,200
it is in elementary form not the sort to

1327
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:18,960
construct ufos for

1328
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,920
exploration of earth as for what lies

1329
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:23,839
beyond our planetary system

1330
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:26,000
it's well remember that our sun is a

1331
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,280
tiny star

1332
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,520
placed near the edge of our galaxy the

1333
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:31,040
milky way

1334
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,280
each of these nebulae are composed of

1335
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:35,440
millions of suns which might have their

1336
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,200
own planetary systems

1337
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:38,960
where life at various stages of

1338
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,119
development might exist

1339
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:43,599
but the nearest star like our sun is

1340
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,280
proxima centauri

1341
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:47,599
it is a million times farther away from

1342
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,079
earth than the nearest planet

1343
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,240
if it had planets around it and was

1344
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:54,480
inhabited by intelligent beings capable

1345
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,319
of travel through the galaxy

1346
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:58,480
they would have to construct spaceships

1347
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:01,200
that traveled at 670

1348
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:04,000
million miles per hour the speed of

1349
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,960
light

1350
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:06,720
a round trip from the vicinity of

1351
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:08,640
proxima centauri to earth

1352
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,480
would take more than eight and a half

1353
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,119
years of earth time

1354
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,960
so those scientists who are inclined to

1355
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,880
think the universe may abound in

1356
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,319
intelligent life

1357
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:20,880
tend to believe that god's quarantine as

1358
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:22,400
some of them call the distance which

1359
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,599
separates us

1360
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:25,680
will make radio signals the ultimate

1361
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:27,359
form of communication

1362
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,559
not spaceships great electronic ears

1363
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:32,079
have enabled man to listen for

1364
00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:33,839
electromagnetic signals from the

1365
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:35,599
farthest objects in the universe

1366
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:38,880
that have so far been detected this one

1367
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:41,760
one 000 feet in diameter in arecibo in

1368
00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:42,880
puerto rico

1369
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:44,880
is operated by cornell university for

1370
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,280
the advanced research projects agency

1371
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,359
and is engaged in a number of deep space

1372
00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:51,440
and planetary projects

1373
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,839
if we are not alone in the universe

1374
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:55,280
instruments like this

1375
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:57,359
pursuing carefully programmed listening

1376
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:58,559
exercises

1377
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:01,599
may one day bring us a faithful message

1378
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:03,119
the astronomers have long been the

1379
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:05,119
leading theorists on the possibility of

1380
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,720
life in outer space

1381
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:09,280
astronomer carl sagan is consultant to a

1382
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,000
current air force scientific panel

1383
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,480
astronomer thornton page was on a c i a

1384
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:16,000
committee that investigated

1385
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:20,400
ufo reports in 1952 its conclusion

1386
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:24,319
no evidence of ufos our panel was

1387
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:27,920
expected to be and i think was objective

1388
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:31,359
in its approach and tried to evaluate

1389
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,319
all the reports

1390
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:34,480
without saying they're ridiculous in

1391
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:35,599
advance

1392
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:38,319
that has been repeated quite recently

1393
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:38,720
and that

1394
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,480
is a good reason for talking with carl

1395
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,319
sagan here because

1396
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,079
he's in the same position that i was

1397
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:48,319
being the only astronomer in a

1398
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:51,440
similar panel um there is not a single

1399
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:54,480
uh verified or checked out report

1400
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:58,079
which uh is at all connectable with uh

1401
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:59,680
with the possibility of extraterrestrial

1402
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,359
life it doesn't say that i

1403
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:03,119
i think i stressed your life is

1404
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:05,040
impossible quite the contrary i think

1405
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,240
that

1406
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:07,839
many of the stars in the sky have

1407
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:10,000
planetary systems we know enough now

1408
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:11,599
about the origin of life to

1409
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,280
make it appear likely that life arises

1410
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:17,680
naturally on the vast bulk of these

1411
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,559
planets

1412
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:20,720
uh it's possible but by no means certain

1413
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:22,160
that life

1414
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:24,400
on many of these planets evolves into

1415
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:25,599
beings which are

1416
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,960
uh as advanced as we or more advanced

1417
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:30,720
uh and i don't see any reason why we

1418
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,599
can't imagine that there are

1419
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:33,440
civilizations thousands or millions of

1420
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,400
years in advance

1421
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:36,400
of ourselves capable of technical feats

1422
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,440
that we

1423
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:39,280
we can hardly imagine if you would

1424
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:40,480
believe as

1425
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,359
as the flying saucer cultists would have

1426
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,599
us believe

1427
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,680
the the majority of the sorcerer reports

1428
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:49,119
are due to their visitations then you

1429
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:50,640
have a very strange situation

1430
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,640
that means several spaceships are coming

1431
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:54,240
to the earth over interstellar distances

1432
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,280
every day

1433
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:57,119
as if all the anthropologists in the

1434
00:53:02,390 --> 00:52:59,440
world were to converge on one of the

1435
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,400
the andaman islands in the indian ocean

1436
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:04,240
because they just invented the fishnet

1437
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,760
there or something

1438
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:08,000
i think it's uh much more reasonable if

1439
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:08,880
you uh

1440
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,720
if you want to speculate on the

1441
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:12,559
possibility of of extraterrestrial

1442
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:13,440
intelligence

1443
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:16,559
that there are very rare visits from

1444
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:17,920
extraterrestrials to the earth there's

1445
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:19,119
no evidence for this

1446
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:21,119
i just say that's not implausible but

1447
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:22,640
have several visits a day

1448
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:25,520
i think is straining credulity i think a

1449
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:28,480
key to what's behind the uh

1450
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,359
the real belief in flying sauces is most

1451
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:33,200
easily obtained if you look at the

1452
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:35,680
contact myths there are several hundred

1453
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:37,280
people in in the united states who claim

1454
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:38,800
to have had

1455
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,880
personal contact with the inhabitants of

1456
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:43,119
flying saucers who have landed

1457
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,720
and if you examine these myths you find

1458
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:46,640
that there are some peculiar

1459
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:47,760
regularities

1460
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:51,040
the inhabitants of saucers are

1461
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,240
benevolent i mean they're really

1462
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:54,400
concerned for our well-being

1463
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:57,359
they're omnipotent extremely powerful

1464
00:54:02,790 --> 00:53:59,920
omniscient extremely knowledgeable

1465
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:02,800
and they often wear long white robes now

1466
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,400
this combination is something i've heard

1467
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:06,079
in another context this isn't science

1468
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:07,760
this is religion

1469
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:10,640
uh and what i suspect is happening is

1470
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:12,079
this we live in a

1471
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:15,520
in very unsettled times uh it used to be

1472
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:16,640
possible to believe

1473
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,000
in a personal benevolent powerful

1474
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:22,160
all-knowing god who cared about

1475
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,040
individuals

1476
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,680
who you could pray to but now there's

1477
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:27,680
very few people who really believe that

1478
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:31,119
i think science for

1479
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:33,280
good or for ill has destroyed a lot of

1480
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:36,400
the traditional theologies

1481
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:37,920
and yet people have the same needs to

1482
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,200
believe that they always did perhaps

1483
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:41,520
more so because the times we live in

1484
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,000
well the flying saucer myths are a

1485
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,000
really clever compromise

1486
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:48,079
it's a way of having beings that come

1487
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:49,760
from the sky that are worried about us

1488
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:51,280
that are powerful

1489
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,839
um that are going to step in and prevent

1490
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:55,440
us from destroying ourselves as

1491
00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:59,040
we very well might uh and yet have it in

1492
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,359
the cloak of science so that no one can

1493
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:03,599
say nonsense that doesn't match science

1494
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:04,240
it's all

1495
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:07,359
very pseudo scientific

1496
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,480
i would think that that at least for

1497
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,240
the contact myths and probably for a lot

1498
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:14,480
of the events of people who just see

1499
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:17,839
things that understand flying overhead

1500
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,880
that what's involved psychology and

1501
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:21,839
theology

1502
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,200
and not so much the physical sciences

1503
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,760
so as we have seen scientists think the

1504
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:30,000
evidence is mounting that life in some

1505
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:32,720
form exists elsewhere in the universe

1506
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:35,119
but almost unanimously they find no

1507
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:36,400
evidence that anything

1508
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:39,520
out there has come here one thing is

1509
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,160
clear

1510
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:42,960
you could not keep a spaceship a secret

1511
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:44,880
too many professionals with too many

1512
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:46,640
powerful instruments are probing the

1513
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:48,400
skies these days

1514
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:50,079
too many journalists could not be

1515
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:51,839
restrained from trumpeting one of the

1516
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:54,720
greatest news stories of all time

1517
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:56,960
it also seems clear that since the

1518
00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:59,359
security of our world is involved in

1519
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,920
converting all ufos immediately into

1520
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,200
ifos

1521
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,440
perhaps these phenomena are properly the

1522
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:07,440
responsibility of scientists and the

1523
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,400
military

1524
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,480
with periodic reports to the public on

1525
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,960
what they have found if anything

1526
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,640
the rest of us can emulate the

1527
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:16,079
scientists by keeping an

1528
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:18,880
open mind since yesterday's fantasy

1529
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,160
sometimes turns into tomorrow's reality

1530
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:24,480
but we might remember too that while

1531
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:27,200
fantasy improves science fiction

1532
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:30,960
science is more often served by facts

1533
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:33,920
this reporter cronkite for cbs reports

1534
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1540
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